Section 7
Part I, Section 7 — Against Rational Utopia explained simply
Notes from Underground by Fyodor Dostoevsky
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But these are all golden dreams. Oh, tell me, who was it first announced, who was it first proclaimed, that man only does nasty things because he does not know his own interests; and that if he were enlightened, if his eyes were opened to his real normal interests, man would at once cease to do nasty things, would at once...
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But these are all golden dreams. Oh, tell me, who was it first
announced, who was it first proclaimed, that man only does nasty things
because he does not know his own interests; and that if he were
enlightened, if his eyes were opened to his real normal interests, man
would at once cease to do nasty things, would at once become good and
noble because, being enlightened and understanding his real advantage,
he would see his own advantage in the good and nothing else, and we all
know that not one man can, consciously, act against his own interests,
consequently, so to say, through necessity, he would begin doing good?
Oh, the babe! Oh, the pure, innocent child! Why, in the first place,
when in all these thousands of years has there been a time when man has
acted only from his own interest? What is to be done with the millions
of facts that bear witness that men, _consciously_, that is fully
understanding their real interests, have left them in the background
and have rushed headlong on another path, to meet peril and danger,
compelled to this course by nobody and by nothing, but, as it were,
simply disliking the beaten track, and have obstinately, wilfully,
struck out another difficult, absurd way, seeking it almost in the
darkness. So, I suppose, this obstinacy and perversity were pleasanter
to them than any advantage.... Advantage! What is advantage? And will
you take it upon yourself to define with perfect accuracy in what the
advantage of man consists? And what if it so happens that a man’s
advantage, _sometimes_, not only may, but even must, consist in his
desiring in certain cases what is harmful to himself and not
advantageous. And if so, if there can be such a case, the whole
principle falls into dust. What do you think—are there such cases? You
laugh; laugh away, gentlemen, but only answer me: have man’s advantages
been reckoned up with perfect certainty? Are there not some which not
only have not been included but cannot possibly be included under any
classification? You see, you gentlemen have, to the best of my
knowledge, taken your whole register of human advantages from the
averages of statistical figures and politico-economical formulas. Your
advantages are prosperity, wealth, freedom, peace—and so on, and so on.
So that the man who should, for instance, go openly and knowingly in
opposition to all that list would to your thinking, and indeed mine,
too, of course, be an obscurantist or an absolute madman: would not he?
But, you know, this is what is surprising: why does it so happen that
all these statisticians, sages and lovers of humanity, when they reckon
up human advantages invariably leave out one? They don’t even take it
into their reckoning in the form in which it should be taken, and the
whole reckoning depends upon that. It would be no greater matter, they
would simply have to take it, this advantage, and add it to the list.
But the trouble is, that this strange advantage does not fall under any
classification and is not in place in any list. I have a friend for
instance ... Ech! gentlemen, but of course he is your friend, too; and
indeed there is no one, no one to whom he is not a friend! When he
prepares for any undertaking this gentleman immediately explains to
you, elegantly and clearly, exactly how he must act in accordance with
the laws of reason and truth. What is more, he will talk to you with
excitement and passion of the true normal interests of man; with irony
he will upbraid the short-sighted fools who do not understand their own
interests, nor the true significance of virtue; and, within a quarter
of an hour, without any sudden outside provocation, but simply through
something inside him which is stronger than all his interests, he will
go off on quite a different tack—that is, act in direct opposition to
what he has just been saying about himself, in opposition to the laws
of reason, in opposition to his own advantage, in fact in opposition to
everything ... I warn you that my friend is a compound personality and
therefore it is difficult to blame him as an individual. The fact is,
gentlemen, it seems there must really exist something that is dearer to
almost every man than his greatest advantages, or (not to be illogical)
there is a most advantageous advantage (the very one omitted of which
we spoke just now) which is more important and more advantageous than
all other advantages, for the sake of which a man if necessary is ready
to act in opposition to all laws; that is, in opposition to reason,
honour, peace, prosperity—in fact, in opposition to all those excellent
and useful things if only he can attain that fundamental, most
advantageous advantage which is dearer to him than all. “Yes, but it’s
advantage all the same,” you will retort. But excuse me, I’ll make the
point clear, and it is not a case of playing upon words. What matters
is, that this advantage is remarkable from the very fact that it breaks
down all our classifications, and continually shatters every system
constructed by lovers of mankind for the benefit of mankind. In fact,
it upsets everything. But before I mention this advantage to you, I
want to compromise myself personally, and therefore I boldly declare
that all these fine systems, all these theories for explaining to
mankind their real normal interests, in order that inevitably striving
to pursue these interests they may at once become good and noble—are,
in my opinion, so far, mere logical exercises! Yes, logical exercises.
Why, to maintain this theory of the regeneration of mankind by means of
the pursuit of his own advantage is to my mind almost the same thing
... as to affirm, for instance, following Buckle, that through
civilisation mankind becomes softer, and consequently less bloodthirsty
and less fitted for warfare. Logically it does seem to follow from his
arguments. But man has such a predilection for systems and abstract
deductions that he is ready to distort the truth intentionally, he is
ready to deny the evidence of his senses only to justify his logic. I
take this example because it is the most glaring instance of it. Only
look about you: blood is being spilt in streams, and in the merriest
way, as though it were champagne. Take the whole of the nineteenth
century in which Buckle lived. Take Napoleon—the Great and also the
present one. Take North America—the eternal union. Take the farce of
Schleswig-Holstein.... And what is it that civilisation softens in us?
The only gain of civilisation for mankind is the greater capacity for
variety of sensations—and absolutely nothing more. And through the
development of this many-sidedness man may come to finding enjoyment in
bloodshed. In fact, this has already happened to him. Have you noticed
that it is the most civilised gentlemen who have been the subtlest
slaughterers, to whom the Attilas and Stenka Razins could not hold a
candle, and if they are not so conspicuous as the Attilas and Stenka
Razins it is simply because they are so often met with, are so ordinary
and have become so familiar to us. In any case civilisation has made
mankind if not more bloodthirsty, at least more vilely, more
loathsomely bloodthirsty. In old days he saw justice in bloodshed and
with his conscience at peace exterminated those he thought proper. Now
we do think bloodshed abominable and yet we engage in this abomination,
and with more energy than ever. Which is worse? Decide that for
yourselves. They say that Cleopatra (excuse an instance from Roman
history) was fond of sticking gold pins into her slave-girls’ breasts
and derived gratification from their screams and writhings. You will
say that that was in the comparatively barbarous times; that these are
barbarous times too, because also, comparatively speaking, pins are
stuck in even now; that though man has now learned to see more clearly
than in barbarous ages, he is still far from having learnt to act as
reason and science would dictate. But yet you are fully convinced that
he will be sure to learn when he gets rid of certain old bad habits,
and when common sense and science have completely re-educated human
nature and turned it in a normal direction. You are confident that then
man will cease from _intentional_ error and will, so to say, be
compelled not to want to set his will against his normal interests.
That is not all; then, you say, science itself will teach man (though
to my mind it’s a superfluous luxury) that he never has really had any
caprice or will of his own, and that he himself is something of the
nature of a piano-key or the stop of an organ, and that there are,
besides, things called the laws of nature; so that everything he does
is not done by his willing it, but is done of itself, by the laws of
nature. Consequently we have only to discover these laws of nature, and
man will no longer have to answer for his actions and life will become
exceedingly easy for him. All human actions will then, of course, be
tabulated according to these laws, mathematically, like tables of
logarithms up to 108,000, and entered in an index; or, better still,
there would be published certain edifying works of the nature of
encyclopaedic lexicons, in which everything will be so clearly
calculated and explained that there will be no more incidents or
adventures in the world.
Then—this is all what you say—new economic relations will be
established, all ready-made and worked out with mathematical
exactitude, so that every possible question will vanish in the
twinkling of an eye, simply because every possible answer to it will be
provided. Then the “Palace of Crystal” will be built. Then ... In fact,
those will be halcyon days. Of course there is no guaranteeing (this is
my comment) that it will not be, for instance, frightfully dull then
(for what will one have to do when everything will be calculated and
tabulated), but on the other hand everything will be extraordinarily
rational. Of course boredom may lead you to anything. It is boredom
sets one sticking golden pins into people, but all that would not
matter. What is bad (this is my comment again) is that I dare say
people will be thankful for the gold pins then. Man is stupid, you
know, phenomenally stupid; or rather he is not at all stupid, but he is
so ungrateful that you could not find another like him in all creation.
I, for instance, would not be in the least surprised if all of a
sudden, _à propos_ of nothing, in the midst of general prosperity a
gentleman with an ignoble, or rather with a reactionary and ironical,
countenance were to arise and, putting his arms akimbo, say to us all:
“I say, gentleman, hadn’t we better kick over the whole show and
scatter rationalism to the winds, simply to send these logarithms to
the devil, and to enable us to live once more at our own sweet foolish
will!” That again would not matter, but what is annoying is that he
would be sure to find followers—such is the nature of man. And all that
for the most foolish reason, which, one would think, was hardly worth
mentioning: that is, that man everywhere and at all times, whoever he
may be, has preferred to act as he chose and not in the least as his
reason and advantage dictated. And one may choose what is contrary to
one’s own interests, and sometimes one _positively ought_ (that is my
idea). One’s own free unfettered choice, one’s own caprice, however
wild it may be, one’s own fancy worked up at times to frenzy—is that
very “most advantageous advantage” which we have overlooked, which
comes under no classification and against which all systems and
theories are continually being shattered to atoms. And how do these
wiseacres know that man wants a normal, a virtuous choice? What has
made them conceive that man must want a rationally advantageous choice?
What man wants is simply _independent_ choice, whatever that
independence may cost and wherever it may lead. And choice, of course,
the devil only knows what choice.
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What happens here
He attacks the idea that people will act rationally once their interests are calculated and organized.
Why this scene matters
This is the central philosophical challenge: humans may choose against advantage simply to prove they are free.
Characters in this scene
- The underground man: Arguing against rational systems of human behavior.
Simple story version
He says people are not machines. Even if reason shows what is useful, people may choose badly just to prove they can.